ANF Jakes Rocks Meeting

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6 years 10 months ago - 6 years 10 months ago #42143 by fat guy
fat guy replied the topic: Re: ANF Jakes Rocks Meeting
I think if NAMBA/PKP/IMBA had a concrete plan on where they were going to come up with their $2 million required to build it there would be more support. There are a couple of other pie in the sky projects in the area that have left people with common sense shaking their heads (a proposed muli-million dollar Musarium, a mismanaged downtown project that $500k can't be accounted for, etc) that I don't really see any non-mtbing support becoming a reality. The average Joe just rolls their eyes as another extravagant pipe dream comes floating along. Maybe once they get the 4 lane built off I-86 that will dead end in Warren (another crazy proposal).
The Musarium was slated to bring 200,000 people a year into the area! Good grief. I think the Leadership Warren classes focus mostly on bullsheot.
www.alleghenyalmanac.com/2008/05/not-just-anothe.html
This might have been a reality if they could have used the water from the ill-fated Marky shale treatment plant to feed thru it, past the carp in the Musarium, and THEN into the river.
You don't even want to know about the riverboat landing project.

An alternative approach would be to follow the successful template that lead to all the trails in E-ville. Nah, that's silly.

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6 years 10 months ago #42139 by Bodacious
Bodacious replied the topic: Re: ANF Jakes Rocks Meeting
This project really needs to go through. Has the city of Warren or County got behind the project from an economic development standpoint? I'm sure this was brought up.

I was at the trail project day last fall.

Yes I would help "hand build" and so would others.

This project would be equal to or greater than Raystown Lake. The only thing they would have on this is maybe a week or 2 or better weather in the spring and fall.

No Goal, Wide Right, I'll just go ride my bike

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6 years 10 months ago #42137 by twright
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I will try to get one of the NAMBA guys who was at the meeting to give some info...

as it was summed up.... it's a waiting game right now.. and NAMBA has no ability to move things along.. I guess much like other developments around here have ebbed and flowed.

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6 years 10 months ago - 6 years 10 months ago #42136 by fat guy
fat guy replied the topic: Re: ANF Jakes Rocks Meeting
The entire leadership of the ANF turns over about every 2-3 years. There was a turnover in both the district ranger who was driving the project and the head honcho for the forest just recently and currently the NEPA study for the project is on the verge of being cancelled, at least as far as I can tell because everything is highly political and secret. If you contact the ANF all they will tell you is that it is "on hold". If you ask anyone who has attended the secret meetings they pretty much have no idea what the federal gov't is up to. This weekend just go up to the nearst NY State Forest, bend over, and kiss that ground. You have no idea how lucky you are.
Here's the latest public news where all of the 'stakeholders' (meh) meet once again with the federal employees for about the 4,234th time:
www.timesobserver.com/page/content.detai...bout-bikes-plan.html
I cannot explain why NAMBA has no communication or information on this subject, its just plain baffling, but not that surprising for the area. The Feds want to control all public info regarding the project. "We will annouce (whatever)" so do not mention it please. Then they never release anything.

This is the NEPA page for the project, which the Feds call "SAREP", its out of date and you can see the next milestone was back in April.
www.fs.fed.us/nepa/nepa_project_exp.php?...ect=32831&exp=detail

I'd venture a guess that if the proposal does produce trail, we are probably 2 years into a 10-15 year project and by then the area will be a gridwork of stripper wells.

I personally disagree with the approach and think we should be building trail by hand via volunteers one small bite at a time, which would be on a scale that would not require a NEPA study, not be a 'historical awareness project' (whatever the hell that has to do with mountain biking), so take my comments with a grain of salt, my view is not approved by IMBA, NAMBA, WNYMBA, PKP, FAW, CIA, FBI, USFS, JRA, or any other organization.

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6 years 10 months ago #42135 by pmac225
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Any updates on this project? I checked the NAMBA site...nothing new or recent.

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8 years 1 month ago #38317 by twright
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dang,, I wish I could find the fast forward button. I am psyched.

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