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12 years 7 months ago #8262 by Jon Sundquist
Jon Sundquist replied the topic: Re: Latest Hunters Conditions
Got out last night and for the most part trails were great. Started out on all the stuff I knew would be dry and it was bone dry, except for a couple of low spots. So then I decided to try the snaky up and down trail on the other side of the creek from Mirkwood, even though the end of this trail towards the pipeline gets a lot of seepage from up above. Sure enough, it was an ugly muddy mess the closer I got to the pipeline. So stick to the stuff you know is dry for the next couple of days until things dry out.

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12 years 7 months ago #8208 by Jon Sundquist
Jon Sundquist replied the topic: Re: Latest Hunters Conditions
Trails are driest they've been in about three years. Even trails from the lower lot are dry. I guess they are talking rain this weekend, so try to get out Friday evening for as much riding as you can squeeze in.

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12 years 7 months ago #8169 by Kevin Preston
Kevin Preston replied the topic: Re: Latest Hunters Conditions
Little tavern in Wales or else where?

Glad to see you've encountered the HC enigma, you can ride and ride on great trails (dry)and then hit a mud hole or two. Eventually we will get a bunch of re routes done there :)

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12 years 7 months ago #8168 by alex
alex replied the topic: Hunter's Creek condition...in a word MUD
Rode Hunter's 'Mudfest' Creek on 5/4/05...many spills due to slippery deep mud...good practice for getting out of clips fast though, though I wasn't always fast enough ! ugh...overall there are some decent sections so I wouldn't totally avoid it, just get in a dirty frame of mind first :-) ) That little tavern nearby has some nice post-ride relaxation potential too ! excellent wings also...but I suspect everybody knows of this place already...

Happy Trails,
Alex L

new member from Youngstown

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12 years 8 months ago #7968 by Jon Sundquist
Jon Sundquist replied the topic: Re: Latest Hunters Conditions
(sorry for the cross post...)

A little background on Spring Hunters Creek Conditions. As posted elsewhere , Conditions are great in E-ville. Get out and ride for some of the best April riding for a long time!

Hunters is a completely different story. While some trails may be drying out, like the pink trail I would suspect, the geology isn't in our favor in April.

The Ellicottville area is the northern fringe of the only zone of New York State that escaped the last glacial period (technically, this region only reaches up to about Mutton Hollow road). This means that that area (even Big Merlin, which is north of Mutton Hollow road) didn't get covered by glacial till. Glacial till is densely compacted soil that doesn't drain well. The lack of till combined with lots of good slopes means drainage is great in E-ville and the riding is good.

Hunters got it's share of glacial till, however. The soils at Hunters are actually quite good for trails in many areas of the park. The clay in the till is very cohesive and sets up well into a good durable surface once it dries. The key is "once it dries". The USDA soil survey describes soils at Hunters that have a very high seasonal water table, meaning that until May, water just won't drain through the soils at Hunters, and the trails will remain soaked. Just let them dry come May, and they will set up solid. Even hiking on them is bad this time of year, as it disrupts the soil structure as it is drying.

As soon as it is dried out, all the trails that have some good slope to them shed water like a teflon pan which is why the riding at Hunters is so good in June through Sept. I can't wait until then.

Except I will, and meantime I'll be riding in E-ville!

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12 years 8 months ago #7918 by mike959
mike959 replied the topic: Re: Latest Hunters Conditions
Does any body know the latest conditions of Hunter's Creek? Are the upper trails dry? Will there be issues with organizing rides on the WNYMBA web site? Has anybody had any problems with the parking lot?

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