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10 years 7 months ago #15646 by Kevin Preston
Kevin Preston replied the topic: Re: Ellicottville Conditions

Lunk57 wrote: My wife uses the 6 inch rule, and she has no problems stopping and pulling her bike over anything larger than that.:D


There are way to many possible responses to this :lol:

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10 years 7 months ago #15645 by Lunk57
Lunk57 replied the topic: Re: Ellicottville Conditions
There is actually a "notched out" tree up the trail not far from where this tree is, it is kind of fun. I was just doing something for the day, with no illusions it would be a permanant obstacle. I know there are a few downed trees on Dead Dog, but I think it adds character and a decent level of challenge. My wife uses the 6 inch rule, and she has no problems stopping and pulling her bike over anything larger than that. At the end of the day, I am just happy to have such a great network of trails to ride on :D

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10 years 7 months ago #15644 by penguin
penguin replied the topic: Re: Ellicottville Conditions
What about cutting a notch in the tree, say halfway through which would allow a moderate challenge. Make the notch just wide enogh to allow somone to ride through without catching a pedal. The rest of the tree would be left intact allowing someone to take on a bigger obstacle. With the whole tree still down it should remain stable.

Everybody would be Happy!!!!


Penguin

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10 years 7 months ago #15643 by Kevin Preston
Kevin Preston replied the topic: Re: Ellicottville Conditions
Usually if the downed tree is large enough in diameter that it needs to be bridged with additional tree limbs it should be cut out and cleared. That isn't always possible because if the downed tree is flat on the ground you're going to go through a couple of chains if you get into the dirt while cutting it. The only way to cut is to get it off the ground.

The one your referring to on Dead Dog is sizeable and I'm amazed that our resident chain saw expert Joe C. hasn't cleared it yet (I think he usaully hears them hit the ground) but if I remember that tree is flat on the ground as well and i'm sure joe could use help.

I agree with boogenman at least on the larger downed trees that the piles of limbs come loose and don't get put back which is worse especially if your expecting them to be on the opposite side and they aren't :shock:

Lunk57 you're correct that Dead Dog is supposed to be the "beginner " trail but actually has more downed trees than most of the rest put together.

Kevin

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10 years 7 months ago #15628 by boogenman
boogenman replied the topic: Re: Ellicottville Conditions
Don't apologize. You did the correct thing placing logs over it, unless you had a chainsaw with you.
My comment was a general comment not directed towards any specific person. I just dislike the log piles, I dislike them even more when the logs become loose and are parallel with the trail.

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10 years 7 months ago #15627 by The Todd-ler
The Todd-ler replied the topic: Re: Ellicottville Conditions

Lunk57 wrote: Like I was saying I was just trying to help, sorry to cause any trouble. It was a bigger tree than I am comfortable bunny hopping, about 18-24 inches is to big for me (I assume many others). My perception is that Dead Dog is not an "expert level" trail that would include this level of obstacle. It took me about 3 minutes to pile the logs up, so it should take less time than that to remove them. Also, moving dirt begins to have a larger enviornmental impact than I am comfortable making, so I was not going to do that. I personally enjoy riding over this sort of obstacle. I wasn't aware of any trail building protocol, I was following the model of other trees of this size on Sidewinder, Rain Trail, etc. Again, sorry to cause any trouble.


You are correct on all your assumptions. No need to apologize.

Man made obstacles like jumps, need to be built in my opinion, but built properly. You have helped the situation, thanks.

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10 years 7 months ago #15626 by Lunk57
Lunk57 replied the topic: Re: Ellicottville Conditions
Like I was saying I was just trying to help, sorry to cause any trouble. It was a bigger tree than I am comfortable bunny hopping, about 18-24 inches is to big for me (I assume many others). My perception is that Dead Dog is not an "expert level" trail that would include this level of obstacle. It took me about 3 minutes to pile the logs up, so it should take less time than that to remove them. Also, moving dirt begins to have a larger enviornmental impact than I am comfortable making, so I was not going to do that. I personally enjoy riding over this sort of obstacle. I wasn't aware of any trail building protocol, I was following the model of other trees of this size on Sidewinder, Rain Trail, etc. Again, sorry to cause any trouble.

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10 years 7 months ago #15624 by boogenman
boogenman replied the topic: Re: Ellicottville Conditions
How come the downed trees can't be left alone or have dirt packed against them?
When logs are built up it makes things more difficult for clearing. Having to slow down is such a pain, I would rather bunny hop the tree but with smaller logs built in it makes the bunny hop impossible at times.
I would like dirt put in, then it would be a jump to flat but with some good speed on the approach the landing would be smooth.

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10 years 7 months ago #15622 by Lunk57
Lunk57 replied the topic: Re: Ellicottville Conditions
I agree, good riding yesterday if a little wet. There is a new tree down on Dead Dog a little before Big Merlin. It is a pretty big tree about 18-24 inch diameter, so I built up some deadfall from the area to make it rideable (for the average rider). I won't be offended if someone cuts the tree though, I just wanted to help.

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10 years 7 months ago #15620 by champ
champ replied the topic: Re: Ellicottville Conditions
beautiful weather for riding yesterday, cool and sunny. trails were okay, some wet and muddy spots, just gotta ride right through 'em.

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10 years 9 months ago #15144 by O D B
O D B replied the topic: Re: Ellicottville Conditions
As of Thursday morning it has been raining cats and dogs!!

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10 years 9 months ago #15078 by pro1286
pro1286 replied the topic: Re: Ellicottville Conditions
rode yesterday (friday) and it was great just alittle damp in some areas but altogether awesome

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