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Re: Latest Hunters Conditions 10 years 3 months ago #8169

Little tavern in Wales or else where?

Glad to see you've encountered the HC enigma, you can ride and ride on great trails (dry)and then hit a mud hole or two. Eventually we will get a bunch of re routes done there :)
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Hunter's Creek condition...in a word MUD 10 years 3 months ago #8168

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Rode Hunter's 'Mudfest' Creek on 5/4/05...many spills due to slippery deep mud...good practice for getting out of clips fast though, though I wasn't always fast enough ! ugh...overall there are some decent sections so I wouldn't totally avoid it, just get in a dirty frame of mind first :-) ) That little tavern nearby has some nice post-ride relaxation potential too ! excellent wings also...but I suspect everybody knows of this place already...

Happy Trails,
Alex L

new member from Youngstown
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Re: Latest Hunters Conditions 10 years 4 months ago #7968

(sorry for the cross post...)

A little background on Spring Hunters Creek Conditions. As posted elsewhere, Conditions are great in E-ville. Get out and ride for some of the best April riding for a long time!

Hunters is a completely different story. While some trails may be drying out, like the pink trail I would suspect, the geology isn't in our favor in April.

The Ellicottville area is the northern fringe of the only zone of New York State that escaped the last glacial period (technically, this region only reaches up to about Mutton Hollow road). This means that that area (even Big Merlin, which is north of Mutton Hollow road) didn't get covered by glacial till. Glacial till is densely compacted soil that doesn't drain well. The lack of till combined with lots of good slopes means drainage is great in E-ville and the riding is good.

Hunters got it's share of glacial till, however. The soils at Hunters are actually quite good for trails in many areas of the park. The clay in the till is very cohesive and sets up well into a good durable surface once it dries. The key is "once it dries". The USDA soil survey describes soils at Hunters that have a very high seasonal water table, meaning that until May, water just won't drain through the soils at Hunters, and the trails will remain soaked. Just let them dry come May, and they will set up solid. Even hiking on them is bad this time of year, as it disrupts the soil structure as it is drying.

As soon as it is dried out, all the trails that have some good slope to them shed water like a teflon pan which is why the riding at Hunters is so good in June through Sept. I can't wait until then.

Except I will, and meantime I'll be riding in E-ville!
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Re: Latest Hunters Conditions 10 years 4 months ago #7918

Does any body know the latest conditions of Hunter's Creek? Are the upper trails dry? Will there be issues with organizing rides on the WNYMBA web site? Has anybody had any problems with the parking lot?
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Re: Latest Hunters Conditions 10 years 11 months ago #6729

Rode late Friday afternoon (9/24) El Perfecto, it doesn't get any better than this! Rode the Upper FLT (9/26) Fantastic conditions. Did find a sink hole though which must be qiucksand. There is a downhill section heading back South before you turn due North West to cross the ravine that appears to go straight (even has an orange marker and lots of tires tracks in the sink hole so it made sense but I wasn't familiar with the turn) the whole bike dropped in right up past the hubs and stops like you threw out an anchor. I was laughing my a@# of. :D
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Went riding Saturday, Sept 18th... 10 years 11 months ago #6703

Great conditions if you like falling. Pretty wet and washed out here and there, but still assloads of fun. Took a rookie with me. He must have spilled 10 times, but came up laughing until the final few. Going again tomorrow and will report. It should be a lot better as it's been drier of late.

Kendog
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Re: Latest Hunters Conditions 10 years 11 months ago #6577

Yup, things were great up to about now. Rode both Sunday and Monday and had a couple of the best rides of the year. Now they are forecasting 3-5 inches of rain through Thursday :evil: :evil:

Mirkwood needs a lot of work, but there is a lot of rock nearby to fix up the problem spots. The section north of the picnic table is one of the very original trails in the park and is part of the reason it is so wide. There are reroutes on this put in a few years back in two spots, but the folk(s) who did it did not reclaim the old trail (other than putting a few branches down) so it looks wide/braided there. The reroutes are actually holding up well, though. This is a route worth saving, though, only because of the lack of other north-south connectors as you mention.

The other part of the "F" loop is in fact one of the best trails in the park (if short, though). The entrance off the pipeline is pretty overgrown this year, but this is an exceptional year for such growth. That is where the old well was BTW (someone was asking about that). It is all filled in with stones, now.
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Re: Latest Hunters Conditions 10 years 11 months ago #6571

Rode 9/2 and the trails were great, Jon I agree Mirkwood is beat up but for lack of a North/South connector it gets a lot of pressure.
I actually tried the "F" trail (speaking of a connector to the pipe line) starting at the picnic table and can't imagine why this trail isn't permittely closed! It's triple wide and getting worse. Rode the "F" loop and there wasn't a single tire track, this is a fun loop if it were maintained, (and a way to get there) but is badly overgrown in areas so I got pretty tore up in the pricker bushes and thorns.
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Re: Latest Hunters Conditions 11 years 4 days ago #6503

Rode out there tonight. Bike came back cleaner than it went out. Trails in good shape that I rode (sticking to the well drying ones). Only Mirkwood seems to have been taking a beating since I last rode here in mid July (I'm sure some of the poor draining stuff looks ugly).

If is doesn't rain tonight or tomorrow, you'll be doing youself a disservice if you don't get out there tomorrow night!
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Re: Latest Hunters Conditions 11 years 1 week ago #6415

-HC Trails were great on 8/19, murkwood was in its best shape all year. I did see a couple of amateurs flopping down devils backbone a couple times. I think they were going straight to thier chiropractor.
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Re: Latest Hunters Conditions 11 years 2 weeks ago #6367

Rode Hunter's Sunday 8/15 and all the trails were in pretty good shape. Puddles here and there but not too much squishy stuff. The swamp was swampy but even Murkwood was in good shape. Watch out for the slimy creek bottom if you come off the goat trail and down to the creek. Crossing is dicey. There is a pretty good washout on the pink trail to the west of the service road. It sneaks up on you and will eat you and your bike if you don't see it.
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Re: Latest Hunters Conditions 11 years 2 weeks ago #6327

Rode at HC Sunday 8/8 and is drying, (that's after 4 days of no rain) but still have to stick to the known dry trails. Mirkwood has taken a beating this year and is the only North bound trail that can be used other than the hardened road, but most riders seem to be riding down the center of trails so they aren't getting wider, just deeper.

I dug out a couple of rocks that were acting as a dam and dug a little channel to give the uphill flow of water a place to go downhill. The more I ride there the more I see how in effective and actually detrimental flat rocks are in low seeps or drainage area's. Of course thanks to IMBA's school, we all know that now.

A couple of people there asked me when the next trail work day is there.
Any plans yet John?
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